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Virginia Disabilities Deal Called `Historic,' but Historic for Whom? - wtvr

Seeded on Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:14 PM EST
Read ArticleArticle Source: CBS6 - WTVR.com
health, virginia, disabilities, doj, department-of-justice, nvtc, northern-virginia-training-center
Seeded by bitemore
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I first seeded an article on this subject here, and promised updates as they occurred.  A week ago, Remote Viewer attended a meeting/video shoot at the Northern Virginia Training Center.  Reporter Sam Brock, of CBS 6 in Richmond, conducted the event.  The six-minute video is enlightening, and it is also very poignant.

An entire community of parents and family members with loved ones at NVTC spoke with CBS 6 in the aftermath of the deal, relaying their fears.

Some of you may recognize Remote Viewer in the video, but she has requested that I not point her out specifically.

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bitemore

As always, comments are welcomed. Please observe the UA and CoH. Thank you.

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Reply#1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:16 PM EST
bitemore

FYI: I just seeded a Washington Post article on this subject. This one may be a shocker... the media was not only not invited, but when the DoJ discovered their presence, they tried a classic CYA move. This should definitely set all of us to doing some serious thinking.

  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:44 PM EST
etva

Excellent seed, Bitey! My heart goes out to the families that are struggling through this issue. I just don't see how people can meet the needs of their loved ones without these homes. When my Dad was in the final stages of ALS, it got to the point that it took 3 of us full time to care for him, and we were constantly having to adapt and learn new solutions and skills. But we knew it was for a limited time. We couldn't have done it long term.

  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:50 PM EST
bitemore

#3: We couldn't have done it long term.

Exactly... but if those decadent empty suits have their way, and awful lot of people are going to be forced into precisely that, or something worse: substandard, on-the-cheap, half-assed almost-care.

I'm sorry to hear that you had to suffer through ALS with your dad... that is really hard. Thank you for stopping by and for sharing that.

  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:59 PM EST
etva

substandard, on-the-cheap, half-assed almost-care.

Exactly! It really ticks me off when so many people say, "well, this will be better," but they have no direct experience on the subject. The infamous "they" have been doing this same spiel with mental health facilities, and the results have been disastrous.

  • 1 vote
#3.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:05 PM EST
bitemore

#3.2: The infamous "they" have been doing this same spiel with mental health facilities, and the results have been disastrous.

Once again, you are right on the mark. That "infamous they" will never give a damn until it strikes them right where it hurts.

  • 2 votes
#3.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:24 PM EST
T1Truth

I have a little experience with the Medicaid system in the state of MI. Like VA, MI closed all but one of it's children mental institutions several years ago and instead making the counties responsibile for them. The concept was good however each county has a Community Mental Health department. Many have figured out be not properly diagnosising children they can pocket much of the Medicaid money for themselves. Our family endured fighting a case to get our child the proper diagnosis and the help he needed. (Adopted at 2.5 years of age and had Autism, Fetal Alcohol, Mental Retardation, and Reactive Attachment Disorder, none of which was known at adoption.) The CMH would not give him any of these labels his whole life and in fact tried to have him put through the criminal justice system. We fought the system and and went bankrupt doing so. In the end he is now getting the help he should have had for years. If anyone is interested they may find a complete set of articles on this on my site. Thousands of children are now in the criminal justice system because of these practices and the truth needs to get out.

  • 1 vote
#3.4 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:26 PM EST
T1Truth

Many of us parents loving call our Community Mental Health Agencies: Community Mental Hell for what they do to our children.

  • 1 vote
#3.5 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:01 PM EST
bitemore

#3.5: Community Mental Hell for what they do to our children.

I'm so sorry for what you've had to go through! We call ourselves a "civilized" society, but we will never be truly civilized until we treat each and ever citizen the way we, ourselves, would wish to be treated. I would love to see politicians fall to the bottom of the food chain and then suffer every hell they ever inflicted on others. They need to know and to feel what they have done to people. Makes me wish witchcraft was real... I'd sure like to put a hex on those holier-than-thou sonsabitches!

Sigh. Thank you very much for sharing and for stopping by. FR accepted!

  • 2 votes
#3.6 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:30 AM EST
T1Truth

Thank you for your support. Activism is the best tool we all have to change insjustices.

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#3.7 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:37 AM EST
bitemore

#3.7: Activism is the best tool we all have to change insjustices.

It really is the only one. Nothing of import was ever accomplished until a critical mass of activism was reached. There IS power in numbers!

  • 2 votes
#3.8 - Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:56 AM EST
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Augur Well

Terrific seed and story, biteySis! Kudos to you and RV to post this up, keep this story in the eye, and for all you two do!

Kudos to Sam Brock as well! A trooper, to be sure!

I gotta say one thing tho, what a piece of work Hazell is! Just my own opinion/impression. "Slimy" sure comes to the fore. And I won't even get into the DoJ at this writing!

"Historic". Yea, right. The DoJ, the people there behind this mess, are way too caught up in their own senses of viability. When the typical responses of what is supposed to be "our government" acts as these clowns do, it's no longer "our government". Sad to say, but all too true.

But they sure don't like the glare of the cold and clear light of day and open publicity. Yet another shining (pun intended) example of our government in action.

I just hope beyond hope the final analysis becomes proper and effective and responsive care for those truly needing it, not the usual political footballing, which I for one have never seen a positive example result from it. Ever. Anywhere. I hope and hope and hope!

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:55 AM EST
etva

Our "government" seems no longer capable of seeing both the individual and the citizens anymore. All they see is the "political" football game, and the goal.

  • 2 votes
#4.1 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:04 AM EST
bitemore

#4: I just hope beyond hope the final analysis becomes proper and effective and responsive care for those truly needing it, not the usual political footballing, which I for one have never seen a positive example result from it.

Political footballing... yeah, that is what it looks like. A government of the government, by the government, and for the government. A democratic dictatorship. Despicable. And your assessment of that Hazell creep is spot-on!

#4.1: Our "government" seems no longer capable of seeing both the individual and the citizens anymore

I fear it lost that ability at some point in the early 1980's. That seems to be when the dumbing-down of Americans became an earnest campaign. Our government exists now only for its own self-preservation. You, I, and others are invisible. It is all about the government.

  • 2 votes
#4.2 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:16 AM EST
Augur Well

All they see is the "political" football game, and the goal.

So true etva. That's their first and primary focus, and the very same that blinds them to the consequences of their actions. So many caught up in the moments of their time at their own wheels, convinced that whatever they do is the best course, simply because they feel some sense of destiny they find themselves in at that moment during their tenure. Unfortunately, it's an attitude that feeds on itself, no matter who's at the wheel, when all it engenders is first and foremost the self-preservation for the political line at the expense of all else.

So much for acting in the public interest FIRST, than their own political appointments or party face.

BiteySIs! I understand what you're saying, but I submit, "democracy" isn't what the government "does" it's supposed to be what the people "do". What people like these in DoJ and Hazell do isn't democracy, it's self-serving. Government is there to serve, period. Not be "democratic". "Democratic" is what puts them in the positions they hold. And it's the same that can remove them. And change that government to be more responsive.

End of that rant! (*grin!*)

  • 1 vote
#4.3 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:17 AM EST
bitemore

#4.3: "Democratic" is what puts them in the positions they hold. And it's the same that can remove them. And change that government to be more responsive.

Yes, that was the original plan. Now, it is the despots that are voted in (among a selection of candidates that is no better than the one who is elected), so that it becomes what I said it is: a government OF the government, BY the government, and FOR the government. Our votes, to them, are merely a coin-toss. And WE LET IT HAPPEN that way! Until WE (and I mean ALL of us who are NOT in government) learn the difference between showing up at the polls and actually VOTING, we'll just get more of the same.

  • 2 votes
#4.4 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:28 AM EST
Augur Well

And WE LET IT HAPPEN that way! Until WE (and I mean ALL of us who are NOT in government) learn the difference between showing up at the polls and actually VOTING, we'll just get more of the same.

And THAT is the truth!

(*ALLgrins!*)

  • 2 votes
#4.5 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:34 AM EST
bitemore

{{{{{L'il Bro}}}}}

  • 1 vote
#4.6 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:06 AM EST
Augur Well

{{{{{{{BigSis}}}}}}}

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#4.7 - Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:09 AM EST
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Remote Viewer

Bitey, thank you so much for keeping the good fire burning. I thought I'd share a rant that I wrote and adapted as a letter to the editor of the Washington Post following the Fredrick Kunkle article that Bitey seeded here. There's no indication that it will be published, but it does express my views as of now pretty succinctly.

My 40 year old son has autism and severe behavioral issues. Group home placement proved inadequate to ensure his safety and that of his housemates and his neighbors in the community. He has resided at the Northern Virginia Training Center since 1998. It has been home and community for him, not only protecting but greatly enriching his life.

Social services in Virginia are notoriously underfunded. There has always been fierce contention over the stingy allocation of resources. For example, in the early 1970s, autism was not a household word, and services for affected individuals were virtually nonexistent. Parents who pleaded for support were often asked, “Whom should we deprive of funding in order to assist you?” I suppose we were expected to crawl away with our tails between our legs. Today the strategy is the same. We hear from Secretary Hazel and Commissioner Stewart that the Commonwealth, which ranks among the top ten in the nation for median income, “cannot afford” to continue operating “two systems.” Two systems? This is the artificial wedge that the McDonnell administration seeks to drive between those who can and should be allies in support of a full continuum of services, one integrated system of care. Cannibalizing one side of the continuum to feed the other benefits no one.

The parents and associates of Virginia's Training Centers have always supported community based services for all who can benefit from them, and have never suggested that every person with an intellectual disability should be forced to live in a Training Center. Framing this travesty as a victory for civil rights is blatantly deceptive.

We all graduated from Kindergarten a long time ago. I for one am tired of watching the Department of Justice and the McDonnell administration point fingers at each other when in fact they have conspired together behind tightly closed doors to achieve their underlying objective of closing the Training Centers. In place of these excellent facilities, they propose to patch together in haste a new and untried system for which our most severely disabled and medically fragile citizens are expected to be the beta testers.

A pox upon both their houses.

  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:30 AM EST
Augur Well

Terrific, RV!

Post this baby up in an article! Really! And ask every professional reporter here to send it along to their editors. And to the Post as well. And every responding member send it along too!

Along with hopefully a few dozen comments attached!

Best to you, dear RV!

(*RVgrins!*)

  • 1 vote
#5.1 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:37 AM EST
Remote Viewer

I just might do that, Augur Well ... thanks for the encouragement!

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#5.2 - Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:15 PM EST
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